In my last post I mentioned that users of packages lacking a maintainer in portage should submit patches for the open bugs; while this is all good and fine, it is true that often there are bugs with patches that stays there to rot as well. I wish to point out here some things that might not be obvious to users as well as developers.
The first point I want to make is that it’s not like the problem is limited to user-submitted bugs and patches; bugs and patches submitted by developers can follow the same road too, waiting for months, if not years, before they are accepted and merged in. The problems here are many, some technical some social, some difficult to fit into a single category.
The biggest technical problem I can find is that there is no easy way to identify bugs which have patches waiting for review from a simple search. Modifying the Bugzilla workflow is probably a matter too complex to be worth it, but there is an easy way to avoid this, although it requires more coordination between reporters and assignees: using the “Status whiteboard” field to write “Patch waiting review” or something like that; the status whiteboard appears in searches by default, and would be useful to signal stuff like that (I used that to ask developers to signal me particular cases where
gnuconfig_update couldn’t be removed).
Another technical problem is that maybe some developer is interested in fixing eventual bugs with patches for a particular package that lacks a maintainer, without becoming maintainers themselves; or an users would like to submit patches for the new bugs about a particular package. Adding themselves to maintainer-needed alias, or watching it, is most likely going to throw at them a huge amount of bug mail they are absolutely not interested in; I’m sure I sent some hundreds of bugs the m-n way in the last month (I’ll have fun watching the bug statistics on the next GMN), and I’m sure most people wouldn’t care of all those bugs.
The feasible way to handle this in the current infrastructure would be to set up bug whining filtering by package name in subject, but that’s not the nicest option I guess, although it is doable without changing anything. Another idea I got would require a huge effort from our infrastructure team and might not really e that feasible: creating multiple package name aliases; basically creating an
packages.g.o domain, and then creating dynamic aliasing for addresses like app-arch+libarchivep.g.o so that it would then redirect the mail to the maintainer (developer or team) looking at metadata. This is of course a very complex solution, requires technical changes, and might as well be quite worse on other things, like for instance it would be a huge mess to search for all the bugs for a given herd, and would increase the amount of spam that each alias receive in a HUGE manner. On the other hand, the domain could be ste to only receive mail through bugzilla, and the addresses being otherwise invalid.
There are then some social problems, for instance there is the fact that Gentoo developers are volunteer, so you can’t force them to accept patches, or to improve submitted patches if they are not seen fit for merge in the tree. This means that if you want your patch to be merged in the tree you need to make sure you have a good case for it, and that you improve it as much as it’s needed for it to be merged, which might take an incremental amount of time. Of course not all users are programmers, but you cannot expect all developers to take charge of improving patches indeterminately until they can be merged, if they have no need for such patches. You can always try to find some person interested in helping out who can help you improve the patch; in the worst case you can resolve to pay someone to fix your patch up.
Also, most of the developers are likely swamped and might require some prodding to remember to take care of patches, and this is probably the heaviest showstopper; the only way to fix that is to join Gentoo and start improving the situation; of course it requires training, it’s not like we can accept every user as a developer, there are standards that one has to consider. Yes, I know there are some developers who not always live up to those standards, but that’s also a problem. I’m not saying that new developers should be perfect before joining, but they have to be open to critics and ready to learn; “works for me, it’s your problem” is not a good answer.
Does anybody have better ideas on how to fix these problems?